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== aim ==
 
== aim ==
 
* build a street-legal (Germany) electrical supported kick-bike
 
* build a street-legal (Germany) electrical supported kick-bike
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* Discussion: https://www.elektro-skateboard.de/topic/6870-umbau-eines-1016-tretrollers/
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* the mother of all: http://www.postfossilemobile.de/fahrzeuge-2/tretroller-mit-elektrischer-trethilfe/kick-e/
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* commercial: http://www.flykly.com/smart-ped.html
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== tech ==
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=== LiPo ===
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* 6S = 22.2V
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* 8S = 30V
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* 10S = 37V
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* 12S = 44.4V
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=== Power ===
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* 50A x 22.2V= 1110Watt
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* 50A x 30V = 1500Watt
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* 50A x 37V = 1850Watt
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* 50A x 44.4V = 2220Watt
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=== hub-motor ===
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* 328RPM x 60min. x 1.265m / 1000 = 24.9 km/h (16-Zoll Rad)
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* 328RPM x 60min. x 1.270m / 1000 = 25 km/h (16-Zoll Rad)
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=== outrunner ===
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* D=50mm U=0.15708m > macht 2652rpm bei 25km/h
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** > 119KV bei 6S
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** > 88KV bei 8S
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*** https://alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/50mm/aps-5065-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-90kv-1800w/
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** > 72KV bei 10S
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** > 60KV bei 12S
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* D=63mm U=0.19792m > macht 2105rpm bei 25km/h
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** > 95 KV bei 6S
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** > 70 KV bei 8S
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** > 57 KV bei 10S
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*** https://alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/63mm/aps-6374s-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-60kv-2800w/
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** > 47 KV bei 12S
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*** https://alienpowersystem.com/shop/brushless-motors/63mm/aps-6384s-sensored-outrunner-brushless-motor-50kv-4000w/
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* D=68mm U=213.628 > macht 1956 rpm bei 25km/h > 88 KV bei 6S > 44 KV bei 12S
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* D=7?
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* D=90 U=282.743 > macht 1477 rpm bei 25km/h > 66KV bei 6S > 33 KV bei 12S
  
 
== parts ==
 
== parts ==
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* Yedoo Friday https://www.yedoo.eu/de/produkt/friday-7tQxLn.aspx
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** Steuersatz NECO alloy 1 1/8" mit Gewinde
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** Bremshebel TEKTRO ML 520 alloy
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** Bremsen (vorne/hinten) "V" TEKTRO alloy /"V" TEKTRO alloy
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** Reifen 16" / 16" Kenda max. 4,6 bar
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** Felgen HJC alloy mit Doppelwand + CNC gefräste Bremsbeläge
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** Naben NOVATEC 74 / 74 mm
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== friction drive ==
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* Idea https://www.instructables.com/Friction-drive-build-for-bikes/
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* Idea https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/electric-brompton-diy-friction-drive-solution
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* Motor https://hobbyking.com/de_de/turnigy-aerodrive-sk3-6364-190kv-brushless-outrunner-motor.html
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* ESC https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-sk8-esc-v4-12-for-electric-skateboard-conversion-w-bec.html
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* Arduino-Controller EUR
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** https://www.heise.de/make/artikel/eSkateboard-mit-VESC-Speedcontroller-3823391.html
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* BMS EUR
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* Battery EUR
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== hub ==
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* 75mm Motor
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** https://www.ebike-solutions.com/de/shop/pedelec-e-bike-teile/motoren/ebs-v2-akm-f-vorderradmotor-36v-250w-fuer-brompton.html
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** http://www.aliexpress.com/i/32970356023.html
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** https://bmsbattery.com/motor/868-16985-q70-36v250w-front-driving-v-brake-hub-motor.html#/214-rpm-328
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** http://www.topbikekit.com/akm74sx-24v250w-36v250w-ebike-front-driving-hub-motor-fork-size-74mm-p-823.html
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** http://shop.crystalyte-europe.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1
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== other ==
 
* Mibo Mastr 16/16 https://www.mibo.cz/en/mastr EUR 450,-
 
* Mibo Mastr 16/16 https://www.mibo.cz/en/mastr EUR 450,-
 
** Wheels: Novatec F- 16" + B- 16"Alu 32, double wall rims
 
** Wheels: Novatec F- 16" + B- 16"Alu 32, double wall rims
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** Brakes: Shimano 4000
 
** Brakes: Shimano 4000
 
* Cute Q100 https://bmsbattery.com/motor/333-15683-q100-36v250w-350w-front-driving-ebike-hub-motor-ebike-kit.html#/214-rpm-328 EUR 90,-
 
* Cute Q100 https://bmsbattery.com/motor/333-15683-q100-36v250w-350w-front-driving-ebike-hub-motor-ebike-kit.html#/214-rpm-328 EUR 90,-
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** 100mm
 
** 36V
 
** 36V
 
** 328 RPM
 
** 328 RPM
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* Arduino-Controller EUR
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* BMS EUR
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== others ==
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* Battery EUR
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* http://www.postfossilemobile.de/fahrzeuge-2/tretroller-mit-elektrischer-trethilfe/itroll/
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* http://www.flykly.com/smart-ped.html
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* https://www.go-flynn.com/
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* https://www.micro-mobility.com/de/produkte/e-micro-one
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== links ==
 
== links ==
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* Gesetze:
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** Straßenverkehrsgesetz https://dejure.org/gesetze/StVG/1.html
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** Straßenverkehrs-Zulassungs-Ordnung http://www.stvzo.de/stvzo/B6.htm
 
* https://www.elektro-skateboard.de/topic/6870-umbau-eines-1016-tretrollers/
 
* https://www.elektro-skateboard.de/topic/6870-umbau-eines-1016-tretrollers/
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* https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=81196
  
 
[[category:Projekte]]
 
[[category:Projekte]]

Latest revision as of 12:51, 23 March 2021

aim

tech

LiPo

  • 6S = 22.2V
  • 8S = 30V
  • 10S = 37V
  • 12S = 44.4V

Power

  • 50A x 22.2V= 1110Watt
  • 50A x 30V = 1500Watt
  • 50A x 37V = 1850Watt
  • 50A x 44.4V = 2220Watt

hub-motor

  • 328RPM x 60min. x 1.265m / 1000 = 24.9 km/h (16-Zoll Rad)
  • 328RPM x 60min. x 1.270m / 1000 = 25 km/h (16-Zoll Rad)

outrunner

parts

  • Yedoo Friday https://www.yedoo.eu/de/produkt/friday-7tQxLn.aspx
    • Steuersatz NECO alloy 1 1/8" mit Gewinde
    • Bremshebel TEKTRO ML 520 alloy
    • Bremsen (vorne/hinten) "V" TEKTRO alloy /"V" TEKTRO alloy
    • Reifen 16" / 16" Kenda max. 4,6 bar
    • Felgen HJC alloy mit Doppelwand + CNC gefräste Bremsbeläge
    • Naben NOVATEC 74 / 74 mm

friction drive


hub

other

others


links

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