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* https://www.boot.de  | * https://www.boot.de  | ||
** Duesseldorf, Germany http://maps.grade.de/ol3.html#15/51.2595/6.7386  | ** Duesseldorf, Germany http://maps.grade.de/ol3.html#15/51.2595/6.7386  | ||
| − | ** 9 days from saturday 2019-01-19 to sunday 2019-01-27  | + | ** 9 days from saturday 2019-01-19 to sunday 2019-01-27 / open 10:00 to 18:00  | 
== aim ==  | == aim ==  | ||
| − | * showcase 'the power of community driven projects'  | + | * showcase 'the power and diversity of community driven projects'  | 
** openSource  | ** openSource  | ||
** openData  | ** openData  | ||
| − | ** shared knowledge (e.g. blogs,   | + | ** openHardware  | 
| + | ** shared knowledge (e.g. blogs, wikis)    | ||
** users helping users (e.g. forums, fb-groups)  | ** users helping users (e.g. forums, fb-groups)  | ||
* meet and greet (users, developers, contributors)  | * meet and greet (users, developers, contributors)  | ||
| − | * recruitment of new   | + | * recruitment of new developers/contributors  | 
* ...  | * ...  | ||
== exhibitors ==  | == exhibitors ==  | ||
| − | + | === openData ===  | |
| − | + | * ? http://www.aishub.net  | |
| − | ** ? http://www.openseamap.org (openStreetMap)  | + | ** asked via email  | 
| − | + | * https://www.fossgis.de  | |
| − | + | ** https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/FOSSGIS_Hacking_Event_2018_Nummer_10#Tagesg.C3.A4ste  | |
| − | ** ? http://wiki.opennauticalchart.org (openStreetMap)  | + | * https://www.openstreetmap.org  | 
| − | + | ** https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=SommerCamp_2018#OpenSource-Gemeinschaftsstand.40boot2019  | |
| − | + | * http://www.openseamap.org (openStreetMap)  | |
| + | ** DE: https://forum.openseamap.org/viewtopic.php?id=2782  | ||
| + | ** EN: https://forum.openseamap.org/viewtopic.php?id=2781  | ||
| + | ** https://sourceforge.net/p/openseamap/mailman/openseamap-develop/?style=flat&viewmonth=201805  | ||
| + | * http://wiki.opennauticalchart.org (openStreetMap)  | ||
| + | ** https://forum.opennauticalchart.org/viewtopic.php?id=42  | ||
| + | * ? https://www.freietonne.de (openStreetMap)  | ||
** https://www.freietonne.de/index.php?site=132&infotyp=1&thema=2126  | ** https://www.freietonne.de/index.php?site=132&infotyp=1&thema=2126  | ||
| − | * openSource  | + | * ? https://www.teamsurv.com  | 
| − | + | ** asked via email  | |
| − | + | ||
| − | *  | + | === openSource ===  | 
| − | ** ? https://github.com/canboat  | + | * http://signalk.org  | 
| − | *  | + | ** https://signalk-dev.slack.com/archives/C02ENM6QJ/p1527075670000042  | 
| − | **   | + | * http://www.sailoog.com/openplotter  | 
| − | ***   | + | ** not so easy to manage logistics ES<>DE  | 
| − | **   | + | * ? https://github.com/canboat  | 
| − | ** ...  | + | * https://opencpn.org  | 
| − | *   | + | ** http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f134/opensourcebooth-boot2019-201664.html  | 
| − | ** ? http://  | + | * http://www.wellenvogel.net/software/avnav/index.php  | 
| − | *** asked via email  | + | * https://github.com/rahra/smrender  | 
| − | ** ?   | + | ** nautical charts rendering-engine showcase  | 
| − | *** asked via email  | + | * ...  | 
| − | + | ||
| − | + | === shared knowledge ===  | |
| − | *   | + | * http://www.opendem.info  | 
| − | **   | + | ** bathymetrysearcher showcase  | 
| − | **   | + | * https://o-charts.org  | 
| − | + | ** not so easy to manage logistics ES<>DE  | |
| − | ** ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootsbastler  | + | * http://www.skipperguide.de  | 
| − | ** ...  | + | * https://klabauterkiste.de  | 
| + | * https://www.freeskippers.at  | ||
| + | * ? https://www.lm-n.de  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? http://sailboatinstruments.blogspot.de/  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? http://themarineinstallersrant.blogspot.de/  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? https://booteblog.net  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? http://www.wattenschipper.de  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? http://www.bootstechnik.de  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | * ? http://www.czierpka.de  | ||
| + | ** asked via email  | ||
| + | |||
| + | === community ===  | ||
| + | * https://www.segeln-forum.de  | ||
| + | ** https://www.segeln-forum.de/board9-community/board10-termine/68147-opensource-gemeinschaftsstand-boot2019/  | ||
| + | * https://www.boote-forum.de  | ||
| + | ** https://www.boote-forum.de/showthread.php?p=4570983  | ||
| + | * ? http://boote-wassersport-forum.de  | ||
| + | ** http://boote-wassersport-forum.de/showthread.php?8773-OpenSource-Gemeinschaftsstand-boot2019  | ||
| + | * https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootsbastler  | ||
| + | ** https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootsbastler/permalink/1961557534174230/  | ||
| + | * [http://klabauterkiste.de/news KlabauterNews] for announcements  | ||
| + | |||
| + | === openHardware ===  | ||
| + | * https://gitlab.com/norbertwalter67/Windsensor_WiFi_1000  | ||
| + | * ? http://www.pypilot.org  | ||
== staff ==  | == staff ==  | ||
| + | === volunteers ===  | ||
* Dirk-- (bastelbude)  | * Dirk-- (bastelbude)  | ||
** booth setup and dismanteling  | ** booth setup and dismanteling  | ||
** equipment  | ** equipment  | ||
| + | * Frank (meerlust)  | ||
| + | ** booth setup and dismanteling  | ||
| + | * Oliver (e-d-o-t)  | ||
| + | ** setup and dismanteling  | ||
| + | ** visuals  | ||
* netaction (signalK)  | * netaction (signalK)  | ||
** Signal K at Conrad Maker Faire 2017 Berlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq25SWS-r6I  | ** Signal K at Conrad Maker Faire 2017 Berlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq25SWS-r6I  | ||
* WernerK (openSeaMap, gps32)  | * WernerK (openSeaMap, gps32)  | ||
**  http://gps-32.de  | **  http://gps-32.de  | ||
| + | ** all 9 days  | ||
* fabdrol (signalK)  | * fabdrol (signalK)  | ||
** http://signalk.org/about.html  | ** http://signalk.org/about.html  | ||
** weekend + 1 day  | ** weekend + 1 day  | ||
| + | * AFischer (AFTrack)  | ||
| + | ** http://www.afischer-online.de/and/aftrack/sailing/index.html  | ||
| + | ** 1 day  | ||
* AndreasV (avnav)  | * AndreasV (avnav)  | ||
** http://www.wellenvogel.net/software/avnav/index.php  | ** http://www.wellenvogel.net/software/avnav/index.php  | ||
| + | * Sailoog (openPlotter)  | ||
| + | ** from Barcelona  | ||
| + | * bcn (o-charts, openCPN)  | ||
| + | ** from Barcelona  | ||
| + | * opendem (openDEM)  | ||
| + | ** 1 day or 2 days halftime  | ||
| + | * malcolmH (mastermind)  | ||
| + | ** https://github.com/malcolmh  | ||
| + | ** 2 or 3 days  | ||
| + | * nicolasP (openSeaMap)  | ||
| + | ** http://2018.openbelgium.be/session/openseamap-mapping-depth-belgian-coast  | ||
| + | * rahra (smrender)  | ||
| + | ** https://www.freeskippers.at/ueber-mich/  | ||
| + | ** a couple of days  | ||
| + | * black_bike (openStreetMap)  | ||
| + | ** user-group Duesseldorf, Essen  | ||
| + | ** https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Stammtisch#Mai_2018  | ||
| + | ** yes, going  | ||
| + | * janA ( https://klaubauterkiste.de , https://bosunsbox.com )  | ||
| + | ** several days part-time  | ||
| + | ** spread the word about DIY-solutions on boats  | ||
| + | * peterchen (segeln-forum)  | ||
| + | ** sponsoring, pr  | ||
* ? tkurki (signalK)  | * ? tkurki (signalK)  | ||
** asked via slack  | ** asked via slack  | ||
| + | * peterS (skipperguide)  | ||
| + | ** yes, interested  | ||
* ? Victor (openSeaMap, canboat)  | * ? Victor (openSeaMap, canboat)  | ||
** asked via email  | ** asked via email  | ||
| − | * ? openStreetMap user-group Essen  | + | * ? Vogelfreier (openStreetMap)  | 
| − | + | ** user-group Essen  | |
| − | |||
| − | |||
**  asked via OSM  | **  asked via OSM  | ||
| − | |||
| − | |||
* ? MarkusB (openSeaMap)  | * ? MarkusB (openSeaMap)  | ||
| − | **   | + | ** asked via oSeaM mailing list  | 
* ? Olaf (openNauticalCharts)  | * ? Olaf (openNauticalCharts)  | ||
| − | **   | + | ** asked via oSeaM mailing list  | 
* ? Alexej (openSeaMap)  | * ? Alexej (openSeaMap)  | ||
| − | **   | + | ** asked via oSeaM mailing list  | 
* ? Trailblazr (openSeaMap)  | * ? Trailblazr (openSeaMap)  | ||
| − | **   | + | ** asked via oSeaM mailing list  | 
* ? Hotelsierra (openSeaMap)  | * ? Hotelsierra (openSeaMap)  | ||
| − | ** .  | + | ** asked via oSeaM mailing list  | 
| + | * - hyman (boote-wassersport-forum.de)  | ||
| + | ** is busy  | ||
| + | * NorbertWalter (Windsensor_WiFi_1000)  | ||
| + | ** a couple of days  | ||
| + | * e-sailing (openPlotter)  | ||
| + | ** weekends  | ||
| + | |||
| + | === confirmed ===  | ||
| + | {| class="wikitable"  | ||
| + | |+time of day, 10:00-18:00  | ||
| + | |||
| + | |-  | ||
| + | |January 2019  | ||
| + | |Sat 19  | ||
| + | |Sun 20  | ||
| + | |Mon 21  | ||
| + | |Tue 22  | ||
| + | |Wed 23  | ||
| + | |Thu 24  | ||
| + | |Fri 25  | ||
| + | |Sat 26  | ||
| + | |Sun 27  | ||
| + | |||
| + | |-  | ||
| + | |WernerK  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |||
| + | |-  | ||
| + | |Dirk--  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |25%  | ||
| + | |||
| + | |-  | ||
| + | |Norbert-Walter  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |x  | ||
| + | |x  | ||
| + | |x  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |||
| + | |-  | ||
| + | |e-sailing  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |?  | ||
| + | |?  | ||
| + | |?  | ||
| + | |?  | ||
| + | |x  | ||
| + | |75%  | ||
| + | |}  | ||
== equipment ==  | == equipment ==  | ||
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** ...  | ** ...  | ||
* handheld  | * handheld  | ||
| + | ** 6 pcs. 15.6" tablets on s stand (android)  | ||
** 2 pcs. 10" tablets (android)  | ** 2 pcs. 10" tablets (android)  | ||
** ...  | ** ...  | ||
* devices  | * devices  | ||
| − | ** Raspberry Pi 3 Model B and PiCAN 2  | + | ** Raspberry Pi 3 Model B and PiCAN 2 (Dirk)  | 
| − | ** Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ and PiCAN 2 incl. SMPS  | + | ** Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ and PiCAN 2 incl. SMPS (Dirk)  | 
| + | ** Garmin GSD 22 Black Box Sounder (Dirk)  | ||
| + | ** navSpark moving base RTK (Dirk)  | ||
| + | ** IMU (???)  | ||
** ? USB-ActisenseNTG (Victor)  | ** ? USB-ActisenseNTG (Victor)  | ||
** ? Raymarine A50 Plotter (Victor)  | ** ? Raymarine A50 Plotter (Victor)  | ||
| − | **   | + | ** Windsensor_WiFi_1000 (NorbertWalter)  | 
| + | ** fluid level sensor (prototype, NorbertWalter)  | ||
** ...  | ** ...  | ||
== sponsors ==  | == sponsors ==  | ||
* https://www.messe-duesseldorf.de (venue)  | * https://www.messe-duesseldorf.de (venue)  | ||
| − | ** in case there is an unbooked space at end of november, they will provide for free  | + | ** in case there is an unbooked space at end of november, they will provide one for free  | 
* http://expotech.grade.de (equipment, booth)  | * http://expotech.grade.de (equipment, booth)  | ||
| + | * ? http://www.ntt.co.jp ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Telegraph_and_Telephone wikipedia])  | ||
| + | ** in touch via peterchen/segel-forum  | ||
| + | * ? https://www.linuxhotel.de (accommodation)  | ||
* ? http://riversandseas.de (openSeaMap based)  | * ? http://riversandseas.de (openSeaMap based)  | ||
* ? https://navship.org (openSeaMap based)  | * ? https://navship.org (openSeaMap based)  | ||
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* ? https://www.victronenergy.com (signalK support)  | * ? https://www.victronenergy.com (signalK support)  | ||
* ? https://stainlesslobster.com (signalK support)  | * ? https://stainlesslobster.com (signalK support)  | ||
| + | * http://www.afischer-online.de/and/aftrack/sailing/index.html (signalK support)  | ||
| + | * https://gps-32.de (openSeaMap support)  | ||
| + | * ...  | ||
| + | |||
| + | == accommodation ==  | ||
| + | * fair's-camping-area [https://www.messe-duesseldorf.de/cgi-bin/md_home/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Service-ABC.html?oid=559&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t#/results?ids=00000-12465303#sabc-top Caravan-Center]  | ||
| + | * couchSurfing  | ||
| + | **  feel free to offer rooms, sofas etc. here  | ||
| + | * ...  | ||
| + | |||
| + | == lectures ==  | ||
| + | if eloquent, there are numerous places to raise the word  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Refit_Center_2019_-_Workshops_Vortr%C3%A4ge_zu_Arbeiten_am_Boot.html?oid=60924&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t refit center]  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Sailing_Center_der_boot_2019_in_Halle_15.html?oid=58850&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t sailing center]  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Start_Boating.html?oid=58420&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t start boating]  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/boot_Sailing_School.html?oid=52740&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t boot sailing school]  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Classic_Forum.html?oid=22285&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t classic forum]  | ||
| + | * [https://www.boot.de/cgi-bin/md_boot/lib/pub/tt.cgi/Travel_World_der_boot_2019.html?oid=58854&lang=1&ticket=g_u_e_s_t travel world stage]  | ||
| + | * ? https://www.yacht.de/aktuell/panorama/prominenz-und-kompetenz-am-stand-der-yacht/a111136.html  | ||
| + | ** via peterchen/segeln-forum  | ||
* ...  | * ...  | ||
Latest revision as of 16:01, 9 November 2018
Contents
trivia
- https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_(Messe)
 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_D%C3%BCsseldorf
 - https://www.boot.de
- Duesseldorf, Germany http://maps.grade.de/ol3.html#15/51.2595/6.7386
 - 9 days from saturday 2019-01-19 to sunday 2019-01-27 / open 10:00 to 18:00
 
 
aim
- showcase 'the power and diversity of community driven projects'
- openSource
 - openData
 - openHardware
 - shared knowledge (e.g. blogs, wikis)
 - users helping users (e.g. forums, fb-groups)
 
 - meet and greet (users, developers, contributors)
 - recruitment of new developers/contributors
 - ...
 
exhibitors
openData
-  ? http://www.aishub.net
- asked via email
 
 - https://www.fossgis.de
 - https://www.openstreetmap.org
 - http://www.openseamap.org (openStreetMap)
 - http://wiki.opennauticalchart.org (openStreetMap)
 - ? https://www.freietonne.de (openStreetMap)
 -  ? https://www.teamsurv.com
- asked via email
 
 
openSource
- http://signalk.org
 - http://www.sailoog.com/openplotter
- not so easy to manage logistics ES<>DE
 
 - ? https://github.com/canboat
 - https://opencpn.org
 - http://www.wellenvogel.net/software/avnav/index.php
 - https://github.com/rahra/smrender
- nautical charts rendering-engine showcase
 
 - ...
 
- http://www.opendem.info
- bathymetrysearcher showcase
 
 - https://o-charts.org
- not so easy to manage logistics ES<>DE
 
 - http://www.skipperguide.de
 - https://klabauterkiste.de
 - https://www.freeskippers.at
 -  ? https://www.lm-n.de
- asked via email
 
 -  ? http://sailboatinstruments.blogspot.de/
- asked via email
 
 -  ? http://themarineinstallersrant.blogspot.de/
- asked via email
 
 -  ? https://booteblog.net
- asked via email
 
 -  ? http://www.wattenschipper.de
- asked via email
 
 -  ? http://www.bootstechnik.de
- asked via email
 
 -  ? http://www.czierpka.de
- asked via email
 
 
community
- https://www.segeln-forum.de
 - https://www.boote-forum.de
 - ? http://boote-wassersport-forum.de
 - https://www.facebook.com/groups/bootsbastler
 - KlabauterNews for announcements
 
openHardware
staff
volunteers
- Dirk-- (bastelbude)
- booth setup and dismanteling
 - equipment
 
 - Frank (meerlust)
- booth setup and dismanteling
 
 - Oliver (e-d-o-t)
- setup and dismanteling
 - visuals
 
 - netaction (signalK)
- Signal K at Conrad Maker Faire 2017 Berlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq25SWS-r6I
 
 - WernerK (openSeaMap, gps32)
- http://gps-32.de
 - all 9 days
 
 - fabdrol (signalK)
- http://signalk.org/about.html
 - weekend + 1 day
 
 - AFischer (AFTrack)
 - AndreasV (avnav)
 - Sailoog (openPlotter)
- from Barcelona
 
 - bcn (o-charts, openCPN)
- from Barcelona
 
 - opendem (openDEM)
- 1 day or 2 days halftime
 
 - malcolmH (mastermind)
- https://github.com/malcolmh
 - 2 or 3 days
 
 - nicolasP (openSeaMap)
 - rahra (smrender)
- https://www.freeskippers.at/ueber-mich/
 - a couple of days
 
 - black_bike (openStreetMap)
- user-group Duesseldorf, Essen
 - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/D%C3%BCsseldorf/Stammtisch#Mai_2018
 - yes, going
 
 - janA ( https://klaubauterkiste.de , https://bosunsbox.com )
- several days part-time
 - spread the word about DIY-solutions on boats
 
 - peterchen (segeln-forum)
- sponsoring, pr
 
 -  ? tkurki (signalK)
- asked via slack
 
 - peterS (skipperguide)
- yes, interested
 
 -  ? Victor (openSeaMap, canboat)
- asked via email
 
 -  ? Vogelfreier (openStreetMap)
- user-group Essen
 - asked via OSM
 
 -  ? MarkusB (openSeaMap)
- asked via oSeaM mailing list
 
 -  ? Olaf (openNauticalCharts)
- asked via oSeaM mailing list
 
 -  ? Alexej (openSeaMap)
- asked via oSeaM mailing list
 
 -  ? Trailblazr (openSeaMap)
- asked via oSeaM mailing list
 
 -  ? Hotelsierra (openSeaMap)
- asked via oSeaM mailing list
 
 - - hyman (boote-wassersport-forum.de)
- is busy
 
 - NorbertWalter (Windsensor_WiFi_1000)
- a couple of days
 
 - e-sailing (openPlotter)
- weekends
 
 
confirmed
| January 2019 | Sat 19 | Sun 20 | Mon 21 | Tue 22 | Wed 23 | Thu 24 | Fri 25 | Sat 26 | Sun 27 | 
| WernerK | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 75% | 
| Dirk-- | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 25% | 
| Norbert-Walter | 75% | 75% | 75% | x | x | x | 75% | 75% | 75% | 
| e-sailing | 75% | 75% | 75% | ? | ? | ? | ? | x | 75% | 
equipment
- booth
- carpet (black)
 - backwall, booth (white, H=3m)
 - prolyte trusses
 - LED fixtures
 - furniture
 - mains power distribution
 
 - networking
- router
 - switches
 - patch-cables
 
 - presentation
- small PA system, wireless microphone
 - large screens (up to 65")
 
 - PCs/notebooks
- 3 pcs. 24" all-in-one (win7, linux mint)
 - 1 pcs. Notebook (win10)
 - ...
 
 - handheld
- 6 pcs. 15.6" tablets on s stand (android)
 - 2 pcs. 10" tablets (android)
 - ...
 
 - devices
- Raspberry Pi 3 Model B and PiCAN 2 (Dirk)
 - Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ and PiCAN 2 incl. SMPS (Dirk)
 - Garmin GSD 22 Black Box Sounder (Dirk)
 - navSpark moving base RTK (Dirk)
 - IMU (???)
 - ? USB-ActisenseNTG (Victor)
 - ? Raymarine A50 Plotter (Victor)
 - Windsensor_WiFi_1000 (NorbertWalter)
 - fluid level sensor (prototype, NorbertWalter)
 - ...
 
 
sponsors
- https://www.messe-duesseldorf.de (venue)
- in case there is an unbooked space at end of november, they will provide one for free
 
 - http://expotech.grade.de (equipment, booth)
 -  ? http://www.ntt.co.jp (wikipedia)
- in touch via peterchen/segel-forum
 
 - ? https://www.linuxhotel.de (accommodation)
 - ? http://riversandseas.de (openSeaMap based)
 - ? https://navship.org (openSeaMap based)
 - ? https://watertrack.de (openSeaMap based)
 - ? https://www.wilhelmsk.com (signalK based)
 - ? http://ikommunicate.com (signalK based)
 - ? https://www.victronenergy.com (signalK support)
 - ? https://stainlesslobster.com (signalK support)
 - http://www.afischer-online.de/and/aftrack/sailing/index.html (signalK support)
 - https://gps-32.de (openSeaMap support)
 - ...
 
accommodation
- fair's-camping-area Caravan-Center
 - couchSurfing
- feel free to offer rooms, sofas etc. here
 
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lectures
if eloquent, there are numerous places to raise the word
- refit center
 - sailing center
 - start boating
 - boot sailing school
 - classic forum
 - travel world stage
 -  ? https://www.yacht.de/aktuell/panorama/prominenz-und-kompetenz-am-stand-der-yacht/a111136.html
- via peterchen/segeln-forum
 
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